Incomplete Geeks: A Gay Geek Podcast

Summary

As we wrap up the year and Phase 4, we look back on our favourite (and least favourite moments). Plus we go through all the leaked rumours about phases 5, 6 and 7!

Transcription

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Nick
Hello, and welcome to Incomplete Geeks, a Gay Geek podcast. I’m Nick. That’s Jon. We are gay geeks And no, it’s not just an MCU phase.

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Nick
Okay.

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Jon
That’s good. That’s perfect. It’s perfect because it’s not that good.

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Nick
No, but I have worked on it, and I thought. I thought I got progressively better.

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Jon
I like it. And I actually was thinking when you said, when you’re talking about phases, I was like, whose is it? Just a phase? Yeah.

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Nick
It’s not just MCU phase. We are gay geeks.

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Jon
And nice combination of puns.

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Nick
Episode 28.

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Jon
Yeah. Yep.

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Nick
In which we are talking about the wrapping up of the year slash phase four. Yeah. And we will also be talking about the leaked rumors or the rumors that leaked about releases for phases five, six and seven. These are all completely crap. Let’s be honest. It’s all going to be complete lies.

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Jon
Yeah, probably what.

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Nick
We’re going to talk about anyway.

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Jon
We will talk about it. And this is this is not an MCU podcast, but but they do tend to come up in the news a lot and they are good. So we talk about them when they are so sick about.

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Nick
Having said that, I’ve forgotten what everything in phase four is. So I’m going to Google it. I didn’t write it to ask something.

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Jon
Was that well done. See that? See, now this is just one way. It’s like it’s not just me who doesn’t plan properly.

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Nick
I did the other stuff, but I did forget that. We also are talking about.

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Jon
Recap of.

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Nick
Policy. No, that’s not right. Hang on. I want it in release order because I know what we started with.

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Jon
Yeah, that’s good. Mix a mixture of TV and. Yeah.

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Nick
Because that one, that one separated it out by film and fuck you Microsoft thing. Who the hell invited you here? Okay, I have my own list I wrote myself.

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Jon
Like, this is all fascinating, but if you’re listening, the way that we’re going to do this is it’s also our chance to sort of recap the end of the year, because we’re going to call this the final episode of this year. Both of us are very busy and we’re going to take some time off for the holidays. And I hope you do to do listener will come back in the New Year with in January with some of our new content.

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Jon
So yeah, we’re going to we’re going to of review episode of I suppose the way that we’ve done this. Nick and I were talking before about how we’re going to structure this episode and he had the idea, Nick had the idea to.

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Nick
I have old ideas.

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Jon
Let’s face it, you have all the good ones. I have ones. And I’m like, Oh, I don’t know if it’s going to be good enough. And you’re just like, Whatever. I’m like, Okay, I’ll just not do it yet. More coming. So we’re going to be. Phase four. And he says there’s rumors about phase five and six of the MCU.

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Jon
And he says, John, have you seen them? And I said, No. Should I look at them? And he’s like, No, we’re going to we’re going to Nick’s going to read them to me and I’m going to react. Basically. I have no nothing. I my finger is not on the pulse of any cultural site guest or news or anything because I am a busy man like everybody is.

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Jon
So, yeah. So I’ll leave it to you, Nick. You can sort of start with phase four and looking forward and I’ll be and I’ll be like, Ooh, ah.

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Nick
Okay, that’s appropriate. Well, let’s start with the end of ending a phase four. What were your, how did you feel about Faithfull? Because it’s kind of been said that Phase four is pretty much all about grieving is the kind of common theme. Yeah, the fact that we started with one division and ended with what kind of forever Black Widow?

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Nick
Yeah. Locations.

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Jon
Everything’s down. I think it’s.

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Nick
Fine. Why you want to write these down? Because I want to think about them.

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Jon
And I went, Okay.

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Nick
Well, we can go through them all. But like, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s been a lot since what its end game and far from home finished off phase three.

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Jon
Which was okay so.

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Nick
We’re gonna finish that.

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Jon
So endgame was the second to last a face thing a phase four for three. And then far from home was the official Was it far from home?

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Nick
Was far from home. But I haven’t got no way home on my list, so I need to update from far from home. So that’s when he was in Italy and shit like that.

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Jon
Yeah. So that was still that was I know we talked about, you know, grieving in the last episode, but like I mentioned that the, the, the Spider-Man film where he’s grieving about the loss of Tony, that’s technically the end of phase three. Yeah. And then No Way Home is in this is in phase four. So that’s kind of a excuse me, that’s kind of a wishy washy kind of time there.

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Jon
But I think I kind of feel like this was not intentional. I don’t think that the MCU had an idea of what they were going to do with Phase four. They were kind of thinking, okay, this works while this whole set up with Thanos and this interesting villain, and then the characters are built up that we have such a connection to them emotionally and then the some of the made, you know, the ultimate sacrifice and whatever else.

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Jon
And so they’re looking at this sort of universe that they’ve created and basically like, how can we do this again? Or how can we do this again, but different? How do we move on from this? And I don’t feel like they really kind of knew what they were doing. That said, I feel like they had a good idea of just making good content and they let that drive them.

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Jon
And I think one of the good things that they did do was let people come in and sort of make something with their universe, and that was also their own thing when that was when they let it go completely, then that worked when they were kind of like, we’re not sure. It didn’t really come off as well. So the whole of Phase four is a bit of ups and downs and you and I don’t agree on everything, but like we, we pretty much know what’s good was entertaining and what we get to look forward to.

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Jon
So, yeah, that’s kind of how I feel about phase four as a whole.

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Nick
You said a nice phrase. There’s like, how do we move on? Which I think is for both the executive producers and the characters in the MCU. It seems to be the kind of theme. So whether it’s grieving or whatever, but it does seem to be as expected because, you know, the Infinity saga went on for so long and Endgame is such a big deal.

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Nick
It’s the aftermath. So it’s all the characters figuring how do they move on, whether that’s because brother has died or they are now Captain America or all have a vision that, you know, there’s all sorts of things. The whole world is completely different because of the snap and everything. And it’s also that for for the producers and the writers and directors, like how do we move on?

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Nick
Like we can’t just do another infinity War, Nothing will ever be the same because everyone’s expecting it. How do we move on to do something interesting and cool with this huge cast of characters and new characters? Yeah, but not be the same sort of things like you’re saying. They did try things, which I think was important, and I think it just got way more scrutiny than any of the other phase, like the fact, you know, phase one, having a superhero team up film was them trying something and it worked.

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Nick
Yeah, but, you know, having a Shakespearean Thor, it’s like, oh.

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Jon
At the time.

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Nick
Emily worked. So I think, yeah, now that it’s so popular and people are so used to it being success, I think it was under too much scrutiny from all of us because we said the same like expecting what was teaser, what’s going to happen next, that sort of stuff.

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Jon
So yeah, and whether that was.

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Nick
Whether Phase four has now adjusted our expectations is like not everything’s going to be huge. We have to build up to it again. So even in phase four, it was just kind of like smashing us down. It’s like, shut the fuck up. We have new characters to introduce, we have new situations to introduce.

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Jon
Yeah, even.

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Nick
If it does that, that’s a great place to start. I think.

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Jon
I agree. It kind of like it’s almost like pretty.

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Nick
So.

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Jon
I know.

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Nick
That.

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Jon
It doesn’t. Took us 28 episodes to talk about something worth talking about.

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Nick
It and to this.

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Jon
Is the content. No, I think I think you’re completely right. I think that we the the the creators, the writers, the producers of this universe, this franchise is now thinking, okay, we were I think the the Infinity saga, because it took so long, wasn’t it like a year between those two films with the wait a year like it was, but it was like a year long.

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Nick
Can you imagine if the pandemic had happened in between that and we’d had to wait two years on top of it would have killed everyone.

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Jon
Like we were so lucky.

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Nick
You just.

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Jon
Know. Yeah. And then in the future, like when when children are going to want to watch it, you know, we’re like, No, you can’t watch it back to back.

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Nick
Yes. And again, my brother has said that vehemently. When Leo watches it properly, it’s like after he’s done Infinity War is like, we’re not watching it for a year. You obviously will fight by then. He’ll be old enough and I’ll hack in and he’ll find a way.

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Jon
I’ll just do it myself. Yeah.

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Nick
How old is it myself? He’s eight, so we’re pretty close to starting.

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Jon
He won’t care as much.

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Nick
You know, because he already knows everything. Because my brother’s told him everything.

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Jon
So, yeah, I was going to say the amount of time that we have right now is it’s. It’s no longer we’re not gearing up towards an event. They have to shift the focus from an event or an imminent event that’s going to happen to story.

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Nick
To just be stories. Yeah, we just have.

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Jon
To.

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Nick
Be good fucking stories. It’s a great characters.

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Jon
Yeah. And it’s difficult for them to do that because people are expecting like, Oh, what’s the next big event? Which is kind of, you know.

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Nick
What we’ve learned from them. Yes. I mean.

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Jon
That’s I don’t want to compare it too much to DC. We’re like, that’s kind of the problem. They are. They’re just focusing too much on like the next big event. And then when they sort of relax with that and sort of have a film about character or about a story like then it’s actually decent. Like Wonder Woman wasn’t about like this big event that happened.

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Jon
It was about her story, her origin story. The second one.

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Nick
Was, Oh my God, it was awful. I wanted to die. It was so bad.

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Jon
Aquaman was good because it was about like it was.

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Nick
Stupid, but it was fun. I found it. It was fun. It was. I thought it was all right. It was. It was a stupid film, but fine. Yeah, he was sexy in a good story. Water fight. Nicole Kidman was awful. Yes. Fine. Yeah.

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Jon
Instead of events, it was the story. Anyway, so.

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Nick
Yeah, that’s a really good point. And, yeah, we we need to chill the fuck out. And we learned that early on, but we’re still trying to, still trying to get my head around that. So if we’ve learned a little bit of that going into five, six and seven will hopefully be better. Yeah.

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Jon
And just letting it happen. Just letting this this, this creation just sort of no way.

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Nick
Back can take a.

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Jon
Film franchise in a film universe. Yeah. Lay back and take it. Yeah. I seem to be saying that a lot to people.

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Nick
Oh.

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Jon
Okay. What was.

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Nick
That though. So what would you say? High point, low point and maybe surprising. High point and surprising low point or something. She was like.

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Jon
This is why I need a listicle, because I get unlimited.

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Nick
Definitive you.

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Jon
Combine bear with me while it makes some.

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Nick
Clicks. Doesn’t click it. You do want me to do mine while you’re clicking. Because we can.

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Jon
Yeah, because you can cut mine.

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Nick
I’m assuming high point and very specific memory point. What is episode four of Wandavision four.

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Jon
Oh doing episodes?

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Nick
No, it’s a high know it’s a high point, but this has a very specific moment of watching that one Division is still my favorite of all the faithful probably of anything. Okay. Yeah. Whether it’s because it was brilliant, my favorite character, wonderfully done, all that kind of stuff.

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Jon
What vision your favorite character.

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Nick
Or because we were starved for content or we were still in lockdown or a combination of all of them. The act of watching it weekly, which we haven’t had in so long, like the excitement of that, was all kind of on the same sort of similar level as the wait for Endgame. Yeah, the fact that we all had to wait each week and we were all talking about it, it was brilliant and probably won’t happen again because again it was random.

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Nick
And episode four finished four one, two, three, four. I think it was four finished with her opening the door and it was fake. Pietro and I was dro and screamed and then I had to face down my brother. I was like What Doctor? And was just your excitement, which they then shat upon for the finale. But yeah, yeah, that was absolutely.

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Nick
I feel like that was.

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Jon
Later in the season though. I think it was like six or seven because he.

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Nick
Wasn’t number one ever like the live one with the dinner number two was the magic show in black and white. Hmm. Number three was when they first met in color and she was pregnant. Okay, so that’s the seventies number for the seventies, which would have been Full House. I thought Full House.

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Jon
Was one nineties.

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Nick
Nineties would have been Malcolm in the Middle when they went Halloween trick or treating. 056 would have been twins. The office.

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Jon
Modern Family.

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Nick
When she had depression Modern Family.

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Jon
Family. Oh I know you’re missing you’re missing the I think episode three was the one where it was completely out of the bubble and they focused on what was happening up to that point.

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Nick
Yes.

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Jon
So that’s why it’s so good.

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Nick
That was episode four. You’re right. That was episode four and episode five was the high point was eight.

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Jon
Yes, whichever one, whichever number was. But it was.

00:15:01:02 – 00:15:05:15
Nick
Yes. Yeah. Because that was a great fucking moment as well. Outside the bubble.

00:15:06:09 – 00:15:21:15
Jon
Yeah, it was good. It kind of like there was some people distracting from it was like, Oh, this is no longer a mystery kind of thing. And they’re kind of shifting tone. I’m like, I’ll get that. But still, like, it’s still you still watching it. Like you still think, Oh, interested, right? So yes, kind of the nice I’m just gonna.

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Nick
Look at this. That was my high point. Mm hmm. Yeah. The low point was Doctor Strange. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. The third act of Doctor Strange, right? I’m just like, this is awful. What the fuck are you doing to this character? Please make it end. Yeah. I don’t think anything anymore.

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Jon
No, you probably don’t surprise.

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Nick
Kind of prizes were the biggest surprise.

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Jon
Best surprise, Favorite.

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Nick
Surprise. Surprisingly good moments. So I expected to like Wandavision, but like a surprise. A good surprise was I’m going to use it’s kind of the same reason is Black Widow and Hawkeye for the same reason.

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Jon
Okay, so two entries in your.

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Nick
Because of Yelena.

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Jon
Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

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Nick
I was not expecting to enjoy Black Widow as much as they did, and I certainly was not expecting to enjoy Hawkeye as much as I did. But both because Yelena was just brilliant.

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Jon
Yes, she was very good. Yeah.

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Nick
So I don’t have a surprisingly down one, but multiverse of madness is the same thing.

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Jon
I love it. So, yeah, surprisingly. Favorite moment.

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Nick
Of maximum. High point. Low point.

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Jon
Oh, who? Okay. You okay? I. I want to say wandavision, but you’ve. I mean, we don’t have to keep going about it. It was a great show. It did what it had to do with this. It was pretty good. Agatha was the best thing on TV at that point. I’m going to give my favorite moment. Actually, to the final episode of Loki.

00:17:07:20 – 00:17:08:23
Nick
Oh, okay.

00:17:09:11 – 00:17:31:20
Jon
Because of Jonathan Majors showing up as he remains. And we like it because by that point his casting was already announced he was going to play Kang, and nobody knew anything about that more than just that. And he shows up as this what we now know is like just a variant. He talks about it, he says, and it does get a bit dry, what he’s like when he’s like explaining it.

00:17:32:02 – 00:17:41:21
Jon
But it’s just it’s just done so well in terms of even there’s like a scared jump from Miss Minutes, who I love as well. And I thought she was going to be more of a villain. We don’t know what her deal is.

00:17:42:05 – 00:17:44:07
Nick
So this is season two, so she’ll be back.

00:17:44:15 – 00:17:46:07
Jon
I love that voice actor as well. She’s very good.

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Nick
Which of is that test? No.

00:17:48:18 – 00:17:53:12
Jon
No, it’s e.g. daily. Nope. The other one who did?

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Nick
Tara Strong.

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Jon
Tara Strong. Yeah. She’s one of the top.

00:17:57:00 – 00:17:59:01
Nick
And she was Harley Quinn.

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Jon
I believe you, but I haven’t seen I haven’t really seen the.

00:18:02:13 – 00:18:19:21
Nick
Original Harley Quinn. She was the because Harley Quinn was created for the TV show. The Harley Quinn was created for Batman the Animated series. And she was the first person it was the first time she’d ever appeared on any media. So it was her that, you know, Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill.

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Jon
Hamill as the Joker’s Joker.

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Nick
But yeah, she was the first Harley Quinn. She created it anyway. Yes, sorry.

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Jon
You know that. And R.I.P. Kevin Conroy as well.

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Nick
Oh, it’ll never be the same.

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Jon
They weren’t incredible. Yeah, so she did. I know her best for being one of the Powerpuff Girls. Obviously she was anyway, so she’s great. So back to the episode in You don’t know what’s going to happen, but I think there was rumors that Jonathan Majors was going to show up, but we didn’t know how. And anyway, so he talks about this and there’s like this one really bizarre moment which I can’t stop thinking about was when the character of he who remains is talking about how everything’s been scripted so far.

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Jon
And then there’s one moment where it’s like suddenly he doesn’t know is going to happen. And he like, takes a coin or a key or some object and just like drops it on his desk and watches it drop. And he’s just like, Oh, it fell. I’m so amazed. There’s just I didn’t know that was going to happen. And it’s just this really, really weird shift.

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Jon
And because everything in the show so far, it’s been like a been like a time travel kind of thing. And it just sets up the entire like it sets up the next event of the MCU for what’s going to happen. And it’s just a really good sort of like, like a Easter egg before the main event even happens.

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Nick
We still don’t really know what it is because I love those things where they think that Wandavision’s finale and that one and her turning into the Scarlet Witch was the exact moment where he was. He stopped. So people are like, Oh, is that just a coincidence? I don’t think it is. But that’s also.

00:19:48:05 – 00:19:58:21
Jon
But Oh yeah, remember that. Yeah. Because they’re when they think that the shows I don’t think that was, I think that’s people looking, I think that’s I think it’s a good example of pareidolia people looking.

00:19:58:21 – 00:20:08:01
Nick
And I also think that’s just like how you structure TV shows and they’re both the same length and it’s the start of, you know, it’s the end of the third act. So that’s when your big reveal is.

00:20:08:01 – 00:20:09:15
Jon
So that is very true.

00:20:10:02 – 00:20:11:03
Nick
I’m quite a strict schedule.

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Jon
Looks like.

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Nick
A fantastic Okay.

00:20:14:14 – 00:20:44:05
Jon
So that’s why I’m going to give because I really like it and I’m looking for season two. I’m going to give my lowest moment to actually a different I am I’m going to take your thunder for this one as well, because I was really disappointed with Doctor Strange. I wanted it to work out so much and I think my least favorite moment in that film was when at the very end, in the end, the third act when she kind of there are so many good pop.

00:20:44:11 – 00:21:17:00
Jon
The thing is that every every entry in the MCU Phase four has good moments in it, but it really didn’t work. When you look at Wanda, the Scary Wanda just sort of deciding, oh, I was wrong the whole time is going to undo everything that I’ve done. And it’s just such a letdown of her character. Yeah, And I know that, like, the whole film is a letdown for character because it was like she’s learning to grieve and she’s discovering and now she’s found this power.

00:21:17:22 – 00:21:39:05
Jon
But then fast forward and she’s evil now. And I know we’ve talked a lot before, and I was just really sort of disappointed. Yeah. And I’ll give I’m going to give an honorable mention, too, to the similar moment in Thor, Love and Thunder, when the villain is like, Oh, I’m going to let love win of this. Probably things that I’ve done, I’m just like, this is not a good villain creation.

00:21:39:08 – 00:21:42:13
Nick
So yeah.

00:21:43:00 – 00:21:54:09
Jon
Man, let’s not dwell on that too much because, because obviously both of those films have a lot of amazing things in them. My surprise, like, was I did not expect that I was going to like so much was what if?

00:21:55:10 – 00:21:57:08
Nick
Absolutely. That’s a great one. Yes.

00:21:57:08 – 00:22:08:07
Jon
And I was and I was like, I don’t expect to like this so much. And I wasn’t looking forward to like the zombie episode. I wasn’t looking forward to like, whatever, whatever. And I was like, Oh, but I can’t think of any examples. But I think.

00:22:08:13 – 00:22:11:06
Nick
The zombie episode was the one that sold it for me.

00:22:11:15 – 00:22:13:14
Jon
Like I, I didn’t like zombies full stop.

00:22:13:14 – 00:22:22:19
Nick
I don’t I don’t know if I do. I don’t really want to know. Oh, I loved it. I, I don’t know why. It was just brilliant. I loved it.

00:22:23:16 – 00:22:30:21
Jon
I, I don’t like heartache. I don’t really care that much about Peggy Carter.

00:22:31:04 – 00:22:33:19
Nick
You know what? I don’t. I don’t either.

00:22:34:18 – 00:22:48:02
Jon
I don’t think she’s that good. I mean, I love the actor and she was. It was great to see her in in Doctor Strange, but. Oh, that could be the lowest point as well. I would just die so quickly. Anyway, let’s not talk about.

00:22:48:20 – 00:22:52:20
Nick
Granny if draining the life from me. Let’s keep this this guy. My favorite.

00:22:52:20 – 00:23:14:22
Jon
Point. My favorite point in what if was when the Super Ultron with all the with all the powers has a moment when he hears the watcher. Yeah. Because his consciousness or whatever is raised to which is B.S., you know. But then he’s just like he turns around, he’s like, What was that? Is that moment, you know, every time you think like it happened.

00:23:14:24 – 00:23:33:03
Jon
One wandavision as well, when the person behind the camera talks to Wanda, when she’s on the interview chair in the Modern Family episode and you’re like, Hang on. Like you set up this, this convention in the in the in the story and then you subverted somehow like we’ve meant to believe that the watcher is just an observer. And then suddenly that changes, you know, stuff like that.

00:23:33:16 – 00:23:53:07
Jon
Or like when Wanda is just talking to the camera because that’s the interview and that’s how it works. And even though vision in earlier in the episode, he kind of like he’s like, What am I doing? And just to close it down, you still know that there’s that wall there. And then so when the moment happens in Wandavision where the director, whoever is in the director’s chair, is like, do you not think you deserved it or whatever?

00:23:53:07 – 00:23:55:00
Jon
And you’re like, Whoa, wait a second. This is not.

00:23:55:00 – 00:23:58:22
Nick
Why it was Agatha all along. It was Agatha all along.

00:23:59:12 – 00:24:05:13
Jon
So the same moment. And what if when Ultron, who I forget who did the voice of him, actually. But I don’t think it was James Spader.

00:24:05:13 – 00:24:07:01
Nick
No, it wasn’t.

00:24:07:01 – 00:24:28:09
Jon
It was somebody else who has done a The voice. A prominent voice actor. Yeah. Yeah. And then it’s just like it upset the whole show to another level. And I was like, Oh, that’s a good moment. That’s cool. I like that. So surprised. To what if And I actually am going to give my surprise down to Moon Night.

00:24:28:22 – 00:24:30:08
Jon
I wanted to like Moon base.

00:24:30:08 – 00:24:32:19
Nick
Which I did as I did as well.

00:24:32:19 – 00:24:49:07
Jon
But it, it, it did so much. And the thing is like I know that I, I, I said earlier that I like if people go off on their own thing and do their own thing and moonlight completely did that but I’m it’s it’s.

00:24:49:23 – 00:24:50:19
Nick
I didn’t enjoy there’s no.

00:24:50:19 – 00:25:18:08
Jon
Consequence to that show. No I mean Oscar Isaac I think you’re great but I don’t know if, if that was your if that was your best performance, if that role was meant for you. So like I said, everything has good moments and there were a lot of really good moments in Moonlight. I loved her name, though. The daughter who turns into this scarlet scarab like she looks great, I thought was really good.

00:25:19:24 – 00:25:39:12
Jon
They had a really good take on the sort of mental illness aspect of it. I don’t think Ethan Hawke was a very good villain because he wasn’t as effective, but it worked for what it was and I loved the new scenery, but overall it was a bit of a letdown. I didn’t know where it was going to happen.

00:25:39:15 – 00:25:44:24
Nick
The difference being that you may not have enjoyed it, but you’re not saying they shouldn’t have made it.

00:25:46:05 – 00:25:46:19
Jon
Correct?

00:25:47:06 – 00:26:01:05
Nick
That’s so, for instance, for people who didn’t enjoy She-Hulk, but they’re saying, Oh, should she? And she it was like, we’re not saying that. As we get further along, they’re going to try more things and have different things and not going to be for everyone.

00:26:01:08 – 00:26:23:12
Jon
So I love it. You know, if they make if they made like a season two of Moon Night and it was all, you know, him being in, I don’t know what they do in the comics. It’s like fight crime in the city. I watch it, you know, I watch it. If we see more of, you know, the third character in his brain, what’s the word, the third.

00:26:24:00 – 00:26:24:06
Nick
Now.

00:26:25:00 – 00:26:36:09
Jon
Identity, which has been hinted that like I watch it, but it just wasn’t it was it was it was all a bit much, but not enough, if that makes sense.

00:26:37:00 – 00:26:37:06
Nick
Yes.

00:26:39:01 – 00:26:43:23
Jon
Hot take. I thought Eternals was a really good movie.

00:26:43:23 – 00:26:52:23
Nick
I didn’t. It’s a surprising disappointment. Would have been that, but not really surprising was just.

00:26:53:00 – 00:26:53:21
Jon
No surprising.

00:26:53:23 – 00:26:54:23
Nick
Is to just I thought it was.

00:26:55:21 – 00:27:01:19
Jon
I can see why people didn’t get on with it. It was again like moonlight. You tried to do a lot.

00:27:03:12 – 00:27:07:05
Nick
You either do it all or you do MCU. And it just didn’t work.

00:27:07:05 – 00:27:26:16
Jon
You know, you do it all, you do MCU. But but the fact that there’s been a again, I like how it ties into the universe like it was because of this now that now this emergence is going to happen. Okay, fine. And these these characters have been around forever, but they couldn’t interfere in whatever else. Okay, fine. I get why they’re there.

00:27:26:16 – 00:27:51:13
Jon
I get I, I believe that they’re there. And even afterwards, there’s been like Easter eggs of why is there a giant statue of somebody in the ocean? Whatever. Okay, fine. This part of the universe. But it was a lot introduced ten, 11, if you count Jon Snow. Yes. Characters into the universe. And we and we have to care about them all.

00:27:51:16 – 00:27:52:02
Jon
It was just.

00:27:52:02 – 00:27:53:05
Nick
Yeah, that’s a good point.

00:27:53:21 – 00:28:07:17
Jon
It was difficult. I thought it was a good film and it’s not going to get the attention, the liking, the likes that it did, I think deserved because it tried to do a lot and not everybody was on board. They go.

00:28:09:04 – 00:28:17:09
Nick
I think I forgot I have a geekery of the week three, which actually works quite well here right now. Yeah.

00:28:17:18 – 00:28:18:21
Jon
Three of the week. You’re he.

00:28:19:06 – 00:28:20:14
Nick
Should keep you.

00:28:23:00 – 00:28:26:04
Jon
Figure. Previously on X-Men.

00:28:26:04 – 00:28:37:16
Nick
Geekery of the week three. So my Jaeger of the week three the media I consumed with curiosity was the Guardian’s Christmas special.

00:28:38:01 – 00:28:42:24
Jon
Oh, you know, I meant, okay, I will watch it, but I had completely missed it.

00:28:42:24 – 00:28:59:21
Nick
I won’t give spoilers because it’s very early on, like it’s not December and I normally don’t watch the Christmas stuff until absolutely necessary, if at all. So that should kind of give you an idea of how much I was. I enjoy Christmas themed content.

00:29:00:07 – 00:29:03:00
Jon
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand.

00:29:03:15 – 00:29:23:22
Nick
It was garbage. I, I, it was just the internet. I was like, what? This is. This is awful. This is awful. This is odd. How much did this cost to make? Why is everyone here? This is awful. I understand if you’re going to make a Christmas special, it’s going to be cheesy Christmas by trite.

00:29:23:22 – 00:29:24:23
Jon
It’s going to be so.

00:29:25:05 – 00:29:26:03
Nick
And I get that.

00:29:26:04 – 00:29:27:01
Jon
Factor and it.

00:29:27:01 – 00:29:32:02
Nick
Just seemed pointless. And so I had.

00:29:32:23 – 00:29:40:04
Jon
Okay. Two questions for you. One, what is it? Was it like a half hour TV special?

00:29:40:05 – 00:29:41:04
Nick
45 minutes.

00:29:41:22 – 00:29:51:14
Jon
Okay. And this is one thing. It’s not like an episodic or anything like that, just the one. Okay. Second question, What made it bad? Like, what was like what what.

00:29:51:19 – 00:29:52:11
Nick
Was every.

00:29:52:15 – 00:29:53:02
Jon
Year like.

00:29:53:12 – 00:30:05:19
Nick
It’s you know, I know guardians is is a very kind of I don’t want to say childish, but, you know, that kind of joyful, playful cast of characters.

00:30:05:19 – 00:30:06:00
Jon
Hmm.

00:30:06:20 – 00:30:37:21
Nick
Anyway, but because it was for a Christmas thing, they just wrapped that up and it was like a stupid, stupid. It’s just childish things for kids. Yeah. And Chris Pratt was awful. He has made two guest appearances since End Game. So Love and Thunder in this A he looks like shit. Oh B he is like, Oh him B I.

00:30:37:21 – 00:30:41:01
Jon
Say, Aren’t you mister? I said, Oh it must be of gay bashing. Yeah.

00:30:41:01 – 00:31:09:24
Nick
Oh that. Sorry. Yeah. It’s tiring your man and he looks like shit. Be a deadpan. Possibly this is the point of his character because cameras disappeared dead, so maybe he is just devastated. And that’s it. His life is over, which is fair enough. But also, why the fuck this is not going to be a fun part three if that’s his character because he is dull as fucking shit.

00:31:10:16 – 00:31:12:14
Jon
Mm. I mean.

00:31:12:14 – 00:31:17:21
Nick
Miserable to be there. He looks like crap. He’s like.

00:31:17:21 – 00:31:42:15
Jon
Here’s a heartache. Like, I, you know, there are a lot of female characters are not that I support this idea, but like a lot of female characters, characters exist only to be the love interests of the leading male character. Has he become that like has he? Is he now the person that exists? Like his only sort of motive to exist is to find this soul mate or whatever.

00:31:42:24 – 00:31:54:13
Nick
And that would only work if Gamora is the star of the film. If Zoe Saldana, his name is Zoe Saldana, his name comes first in those credits. If he.

00:31:54:13 – 00:31:55:17
Jon
Becomes a more a film.

00:31:55:17 – 00:32:08:04
Nick
Please, If she’s in the center of that poster, her name comes first. That’s not going to happen because he fucking insisted, didn’t he? On and Chris Pratt at the end of Endgame like are you kidding And Chris Pratt.

00:32:08:17 – 00:32:29:10
Jon
He can go like I want to I want to film with Gomorrah and like Nebula’s invited to sign and Switzerland Mantis, she can come as well and they just they just let go and like, you know, have some side mission that doesn’t maybe it has extended universe ending side quests, whatever. But they’re just like, Yeah, we’re going to track this down.

00:32:29:10 – 00:32:40:08
Jon
We don’t need you guys. We’re just going to often like, do our own thing. And then the immediate like ramps up and gets even more sort of troublesome and they have to figure it out and becomes be big and a big bombastic and they can do it just those three.

00:32:41:10 – 00:32:46:16
Nick
I was going to talk more about it, but let’s let’s pause on that.

00:32:46:16 – 00:32:47:23
Jon
There’s that I want to say about the.

00:32:48:12 – 00:33:01:05
Nick
It’s crap but enjoy. Merry Christmas, everyone. I was never going to like it because I don’t like Chris Pratt and I don’t like Christmas. So I just did it so that because I knew it was out and I didn’t want spoilers in case anything.

00:33:01:05 – 00:33:03:05
Jon
Chris Christmas. Chris Pratt.

00:33:03:12 – 00:33:05:01
Nick
Chris Christie, Chris Evans.

00:33:06:16 – 00:33:07:18
Jon
Chris Hemsworth with him and.

00:33:10:10 – 00:33:20:10
Nick
Shall we talk about the now not so recent leaked rumors of the release order phase five six and seven and.

00:33:20:10 – 00:33:21:10
Jon
Seven. Okay.

00:33:21:13 – 00:33:26:01
Nick
So it’s going to get obviously very wobbly towards the end because they’re just making shit up at that point.

00:33:26:01 – 00:33:27:04
Jon
Of course, this is.

00:33:27:09 – 00:33:31:04
Nick
What this is from a Twitter thread that I don’t know how.

00:33:31:04 – 00:33:35:16
Jon
Did this come about? This is just like somebody who works in Marvel, claims to have leaked it or something.

00:33:35:22 – 00:33:36:13
Nick
Something like, Let’s.

00:33:36:20 – 00:33:46:08
Jon
Just say that even if this is true, first of all, spoilers, if you’re if you want to avoid anything that has to do with future speculation, but also even if it’s true, it’s it’s likely to change.

00:33:46:14 – 00:34:10:11
Nick
I mean, I was looking at the like list for a phase four and that’s changed, you know, several times. So phase five, I think is fairly set. I don’t think it’s that rumored. I think it’s fairly well, we know all of these projects to be confirmed. Those dates don’t look too bad. So let’s just let’s rattle through phase five.

00:34:10:11 – 00:34:14:10
Jon
Yeah, tell me I’ll do this. This is all new to me, so to speak.

00:34:15:08 – 00:34:20:15
Nick
Okay. February, Ant-Man and the WASP Quantumania. I have you. February.

00:34:20:19 – 00:34:21:20
Jon
Yeah. Okay, fine.

00:34:21:23 – 00:34:23:15
Nick
Let’s not that far. That’s not that now.

00:34:23:15 – 00:34:26:10
Jon
I suppose it’s so far. Well, make content now.

00:34:26:17 – 00:34:30:06
Nick
March secret. Oh, I’m so thankful.

00:34:30:18 – 00:34:31:22
Jon
I’m actually signed up with you.

00:34:32:03 – 00:34:34:16
Nick
May. We’ve got Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three.

00:34:35:19 – 00:34:37:12
Jon
These are all films so far, by the way.

00:34:37:12 – 00:34:40:09
Nick
Second Invasion is not a secret.

00:34:40:09 – 00:34:40:22
Jon
Wait, what?

00:34:41:02 – 00:34:44:05
Nick
It’s a good invasion. Not secret wars.

00:34:44:10 – 00:34:45:12
Jon
Secret wars.

00:34:45:12 – 00:34:46:24
Nick
You should know this by now.

00:34:46:24 – 00:34:49:19
Jon
What was the term that we saw with Nick Fury?

00:34:50:00 – 00:34:50:20
Nick
Secret Invasion.

00:34:51:12 – 00:34:52:00
Jon
That’s a TV.

00:34:52:00 – 00:34:54:04
Nick
Show. Yes, it is. Okay.

00:34:55:02 – 00:34:55:11
Jon
Fine.

00:34:55:14 – 00:34:57:04
Nick
I’m glad you’ve been paying attention all this time.

00:34:57:13 – 00:34:58:15
Jon
So much attention I’m paying.

00:34:58:16 – 00:34:58:24
Nick
Right?

00:34:59:13 – 00:35:01:07
Jon
I’m spent of attention.

00:35:02:06 – 00:35:09:09
Nick
Also in May TV show Loki, Season two. Uh, July, Another TV show, Echo.

00:35:10:06 – 00:35:11:07
Jon
Yes. Okay.

00:35:11:08 – 00:35:12:18
Nick
Exciting idea. What they’re going to do with that?

00:35:12:21 – 00:35:14:10
Jon
Nobody. A kingpin will be in it, probably.

00:35:14:10 – 00:35:19:13
Nick
Yeah. Also in July the Marvels coming to cinemas, new.

00:35:19:16 – 00:35:22:16
Jon
Film The NFL from.

00:35:23:18 – 00:35:27:18
Nick
September, X-Men 97, the animated series.

00:35:28:04 – 00:35:36:03
Jon
So they’re basically just going to not they’re going to redo or just continue continuing the Yeah well find I have until September to catch.

00:35:36:04 – 00:35:42:21
Nick
Up Yeah it’s going to yeah I think I’m going to do that over Christmas or whatever. I’m going to rewatch season one and two and some bits. I’m like, I’m psyched.

00:35:43:03 – 00:35:44:18
Jon
I’m going to watch all six seasons.

00:35:44:19 – 00:36:05:03
Nick
There’s a lot of it that shit the last few seasons of garbage. But I will watch the final episode because I’ve never seen it, but now it’s on Disney. Plus I can say that October two TV shows, so maybe not a man thing. Okay. And I am hot. I’ve not seen anything about man thing, so I don’t think that’s accurate.

00:36:05:03 – 00:36:06:22
Nick
But we’ve seen plenty of hot and we’ve actually met.

00:36:07:02 – 00:36:09:05
Jon
So yeah. So that’s like that’s.

00:36:09:05 – 00:36:09:13
Nick
Fine.

00:36:10:14 – 00:36:16:13
Jon
With the hood as well. The villain in Ironheart is going to be the hood.

00:36:17:03 – 00:36:20:13
Nick
Oh, that’s a DC character as well. That’s a very generic bad. No, no, I.

00:36:20:13 – 00:36:27:22
Jon
Think we’ve been through this before. You’re thinking of Red Hood. I’m so sorry. Maybe there is the hood, maybe there is of the hood as well. But there is a marvel thing.

00:36:28:02 – 00:36:28:15
Nick
So sorry.

00:36:30:09 – 00:36:31:23
Jon
It’s okay. Moving on.

00:36:32:08 – 00:36:33:06
Nick
January.

00:36:34:06 – 00:36:35:08
Jon
20, 24, 20.

00:36:35:08 – 00:36:38:12
Nick
Four, Agatha Covered of cover of Cover of Darkness.

00:36:38:19 – 00:36:39:17
Jon
Cover Not Cockiness.

00:36:40:20 – 00:36:47:13
Nick
House of House of Chaos. Cover. Nick Harkness. Cover of Chaos. TV Show.

00:36:48:03 – 00:36:48:23
Jon
Working Title.

00:36:49:14 – 00:36:53:11
Nick
Oh, God, yes. So struggling. I’m sorry.

00:36:53:11 – 00:36:56:21
Jon
Do do we know anything about that show, like directors or producers or whatever?

00:36:56:22 – 00:37:01:06
Nick
All we know is that Audrey Plaza’s in it now and Plaza. Yeah.

00:37:01:14 – 00:37:02:16
Jon
Who is she going to be?

00:37:02:16 – 00:37:05:03
Nick
Donna does matter. It’s going to be great. You know.

00:37:05:03 – 00:37:14:14
Jon
What? I know she’s most well known for doing some TV show. Okay, fine. Which I’ve never seen. So we will. I just have a I just.

00:37:14:14 – 00:37:15:12
Nick
I wouldn’t worry about it.

00:37:16:08 – 00:37:17:22
Jon
I know her from Legion TV.

00:37:17:24 – 00:37:23:07
Nick
Yeah. Who she was fucking fantastic in. That was great.

00:37:23:07 – 00:37:25:22
Jon
Oh, I got through watching that on Disney Plus as well.

00:37:25:22 – 00:37:30:02
Nick
Yeah, I think I’ve only got one episode I never finished. She finished it of.

00:37:30:19 – 00:37:33:17
Jon
All the actors in that, but I, I think it’s only two seasons anyway. Yeah.

00:37:34:09 – 00:37:39:22
Nick
Okay, fine. Yes. So January 2024. So you know.

00:37:39:22 – 00:37:41:23
Jon
I know we’ll have plenty of episodes by then.

00:37:41:23 – 00:37:56:00
Nick
Because March 2024, Daredevil Born again TV show. Okay, Very good. Yeah. May Captain America, New World Order. So then you think.

00:37:56:01 – 00:38:04:03
Jon
Okay, so we’re going to have we’re going to see more of Samuel’s. And by then, because we’re going to have to warm up to him, because right now both of us are kind of met about him.

00:38:05:10 – 00:38:14:11
Nick
July Thunderbolts, which I imagine would be quite tired quite closely with Captain America. It feels like it’s a natural kind of.

00:38:14:17 – 00:38:15:24
Jon
The both films, though, aren’t they?

00:38:15:24 – 00:38:27:06
Nick
Yes, both those are films. Okay. August 20, 24 is the slot. It says, What if season three? But we haven’t had what if season two yet, have we?

00:38:28:15 – 00:38:30:18
Jon
No, I mean, correct. We haven’t.

00:38:31:09 – 00:38:36:09
Nick
We see that says you can already see those fucking cracks in this. But yeah.

00:38:36:24 – 00:38:39:01
Jon
Are you reading directly from the tweets or something.

00:38:39:01 – 00:39:06:11
Nick
Yeah. There’s like a screenshot that they have. Okay. Just reading it from there and then finishing phase five September 24 with Blade. Okay. Which could go either way because I’m really love the original blade It was so it’s so nineties the first one so nineties and just so good so gritty. I love the second and third one as well but I know that garbage but I, I still like them.

00:39:06:18 – 00:39:08:14
Jon
But back in the day that was what. Yeah.

00:39:08:15 – 00:39:09:24
Nick
So they got so good.

00:39:10:00 – 00:39:11:07
Jon
So graphics.

00:39:11:07 – 00:39:11:23
Nick
If they don’t.

00:39:11:23 – 00:39:14:19
Jon
Remember watching them but I’m sure I did I was quite young. I must have.

00:39:15:01 – 00:39:15:06
Nick
Yeah.

00:39:16:14 – 00:39:18:12
Jon
So the other two I.

00:39:18:12 – 00:39:24:12
Nick
Was quite young. So any of those surprises you’ve had about a performance thing which I think is.

00:39:24:14 – 00:39:25:08
Jon
Main thing, which is a.

00:39:25:08 – 00:39:30:24
Nick
Mistake because it’s not like is that Swamp Thing because that’s a DC, that’s what.

00:39:31:22 – 00:39:37:00
Jon
I don’t know. I think there might be a marvel man thing, but I, I’m not the expert here.

00:39:37:08 – 00:39:39:22
Nick
I’m supposedly the expert, but I’m not a complete geek.

00:39:40:08 – 00:39:41:13
Jon
No, but you are working.

00:39:41:13 – 00:39:43:05
Nick
I am working on it. I’ll go with that.

00:39:43:07 – 00:39:44:05
Jon
A little bit, but. Right.

00:39:45:16 – 00:39:50:05
Nick
Right. So that’s the suggested set up for those five.

00:39:50:16 – 00:40:02:07
Jon
Here’s it here’s an interesting theory. What if man thing is code what if they calling it man thing but it’s actually like Deadpool or something like that.

00:40:02:16 – 00:40:04:03
Nick
Oh yeah, there’s no Deadpool in here.

00:40:05:03 – 00:40:12:01
Jon
What if, what if it, you know what if what if what if Season two is just a whole show about Deadpool? I think so. Sometimes.

00:40:12:23 – 00:40:17:11
Nick
Oh, Deadpool’s in six. So Deadpool three isn’t six from now.

00:40:17:19 – 00:40:20:19
Jon
I but maybe code. I’m just saying like.

00:40:20:19 – 00:40:27:10
Nick
Because I don’t think not this for phase five. No, we went through phase five at Comic-Con so I just think this is.

00:40:27:14 – 00:40:48:03
Jon
Even if even if that that ticktock or whatever something is true about the contracts of all the meetings having to expire first they can still work with even if that were true, they still have Ryan Reynolds. And if they’re going to bring in Hugh Jackman Wolverine, who is probably like 70 by then, that still fits. Who else is going to come in?

00:40:48:03 – 00:40:53:02
Jon
I don’t know. The Ryan Reynolds is going to say, yes, please renew my contract for another ten years.

00:40:53:02 – 00:41:08:10
Nick
Yeah. I wonder how many he signed on for if he’s just not enough. See Jimmy go into phase six because that yeah, this is where it’s going to get more. We’ve talked about all of these before, but I feel like this is where it goes a bit off the rails because like, I don’t know if it’s true.

00:41:08:22 – 00:41:09:12
Jon
Lay it on me.

00:41:09:12 – 00:41:14:10
Nick
So we got up in fall 2024 for a one man TV series.

00:41:14:21 – 00:41:16:15
Jon
Okay. I know nothing about him.

00:41:18:04 – 00:41:42:08
Nick
I originally it was rumored that Nathan Fillion was going to be one demand and I was excited because I love Nathan Fillion. However, he’s now quite old and he’s also white and we don’t really need more white people. So they have cast someone else who people? Yeah. And I don’t know who it is. Let me see if it comes up straight away.

00:41:43:02 – 00:41:44:02
Nick
Great. If not.

00:41:44:18 – 00:41:50:00
Jon
I mean, if this is two years from now, anything can happen. Like the person could be like, Oh, no, it’s not for me.

00:41:50:00 – 00:41:50:22
Nick
That’s true.

00:41:51:03 – 00:41:53:04
Jon
The director changes or, you know.

00:41:54:22 – 00:42:03:04
Nick
Right. So I’m going to absolutely butcher this guy’s name because my guy So I think it’s Yahya Abdul-mateen.

00:42:03:21 – 00:42:06:01
Jon
Yahya Abdul-mateen. He was the guy from The Matrix.

00:42:06:19 – 00:42:18:22
Nick
He was also in Aquaman and he was Doctor Manhattan in the HBO Watchmen. So he’s already had his dick out on TV.

00:42:18:22 – 00:42:21:06
Jon
He was the guy from Matrix, right? Yes. Okay.

00:42:21:06 – 00:42:24:03
Nick
And also stuff. So that’s cool.

00:42:24:18 – 00:42:30:08
Jon
As Wonder Man. So. Okay, well, I mean, I don’t think about him, so yeah, bring it on one.

00:42:30:08 – 00:42:46:12
Nick
Damon is a character whose visions brainwaves were copied from and he’s like super strong and he was an actor, stuntman, wannabe X villain, so very eighties kind of Avengers, that sort of thing.

00:42:47:02 – 00:42:50:16
Jon
Oh, not not ex villain. Like a former villain.

00:42:50:16 – 00:42:51:17
Nick
A former villain. Yes.

00:42:52:11 – 00:42:53:03
Jon
I was like, what?

00:42:53:15 – 00:43:00:22
Nick
That sort of stuff. Okay, okay. So I don’t know what they’re going to do with that. Could be fun. Could be stupid.

00:43:01:10 – 00:43:12:17
Jon
They’ll bring Paul Bettany back. Now, what ever happened to white vision? Like I said, we don’t need more. We don’t need more white heroes. He’s a white.

00:43:12:17 – 00:43:24:05
Nick
It’s okay. Two entries for October. I’ve got zombies animated. So I’m guessing from what if and Ghost Rider special.

00:43:24:05 – 00:43:25:01
Jon
All right. Okay.

00:43:25:01 – 00:43:26:24
Nick
Well, I don’t know how I feel about Ghost Writer.

00:43:27:20 – 00:43:28:09
Jon
Which one?

00:43:28:24 – 00:43:30:15
Nick
Any of them. They’ve tried it.

00:43:30:15 – 00:43:33:19
Jon
We have, didn’t it? Wasn’t there a ghost writer in Agents of Shield?

00:43:33:19 – 00:43:38:14
Nick
And he was better. Better than Nic Cage. But it’s not okay. It’s not a high bar.

00:43:38:17 – 00:43:41:00
Jon
So they’ve got time to figure that out, I suppose.

00:43:41:00 – 00:43:50:09
Nick
Yeah. And still all of this in fall 20 for Spider-Man freshman year, which is an animated show which has been talked about for ages. So that makes sense.

00:43:50:23 – 00:43:59:01
Jon
I also know because you mentioned Spider-Man, we’re not going to go this long without another Spider-Man film. Or is that.

00:43:59:01 – 00:44:03:02
Nick
November 20, 24, Deadpool three?

00:44:04:23 – 00:44:05:15
Jon
Okay.

00:44:06:05 – 00:44:26:00
Nick
Fall 2024, Vision Quest, The TV Show and Winter 2024 Midnight Angels. Okay. And December 2024 Spider-Man. Fall. That sounds about right. Timing.

00:44:26:00 – 00:44:26:13
Jon
Okay.

00:44:27:02 – 00:44:28:05
Nick
Yeah. All right.

00:44:29:09 – 00:44:34:04
Jon
So we did did, though, and we did the book on the every episode that we wanted a TV show with a coyote.

00:44:34:16 – 00:44:39:16
Nick
Yes. We said it many, many, many times. Midnight Angels.

00:44:40:08 – 00:44:41:03
Jon
I’ll make the thing, but.

00:44:41:03 – 00:45:00:06
Nick
Oh, my God, no, because this is obviously crap. Because have you seen going around that concept art for Jonathan Boyega leading a Black Panther, the first Panther TV show? And I don’t know if it’s real or not, but fuck, the images look incredible. Okay, I’m guessing about the first Black Panther.

00:45:00:21 – 00:45:01:13
Jon
Bazinga.

00:45:02:17 – 00:45:03:05
Nick
What’s that?

00:45:03:23 – 00:45:04:14
Jon
Bazinga?

00:45:04:14 – 00:45:08:01
Nick
Yes, that’s the name of it. Yeah. Okay. It looks things. And the name.

00:45:08:01 – 00:45:08:24
Jon
Of the show or something.

00:45:08:24 – 00:45:21:16
Nick
Yeah, okay. And it looks awesome. It’s just outfits and things at this stage, so I don’t know. It looks quite a fish, so I have a cool, cool. Not dorm energy A.

00:45:22:01 – 00:45:25:05
Jon
It’s maybe this one. They create the dorm ology.

00:45:25:08 – 00:45:26:15
Nick
Yes. Well, they were guessing.

00:45:26:15 – 00:45:41:18
Jon
They were because Pacheco appears in the comics as well, like they go like fast back to the first Black Panther. Obviously, it’s so much history. Cool. Now they’ve got to, like, determine how many meteorites there were. If one of them fell into the ocean as well.

00:45:41:20 – 00:45:43:10
Nick
And fucking everywhere.

00:45:43:24 – 00:45:46:07
Jon
You know, after you get a meteorite, you.

00:45:46:08 – 00:45:48:15
Nick
Get a meteorite, you’re going to provide.

00:45:48:21 – 00:45:53:16
Jon
Meteorites for everybody. Fine. So this is. Yeah.

00:45:54:01 – 00:45:55:18
Nick
I’m not sure how I feel about any of those.

00:45:56:14 – 00:45:57:03
Jon
Were three.

00:45:57:07 – 00:46:02:18
Nick
Deadpool three. It could be fun or it could be stupid.

00:46:02:18 – 00:46:05:01
Jon
It’ll probably be stupid. And everyone’s going to watch it.

00:46:05:12 – 00:46:23:07
Nick
I watch it. Oh, yeah, Yeah. But they have. Yeah. I want them to have an of what they’re going to do with it and they have enough time to do it. So hopefully, hopefully they’ll know anything else from that list. I know I’m speeding through it, but I can’t say so though.

00:46:23:19 – 00:46:24:02
Jon
Nope.

00:46:24:19 – 00:46:28:06
Nick
I mean, Spider-Man four I suppose is obviously the biggest title.

00:46:28:17 – 00:46:34:11
Jon
Yeah, I want more information about it. Although we got like, who’s the villain? Is that when Craven’s coming in or is that like.

00:46:34:15 – 00:46:44:06
Nick
Know Craven’s a separate film? And that’s that’s a Sony film. Whereas this is a MCU, Sony produced MCU film.

00:46:45:11 – 00:46:47:07
Jon
I need to be in this one of these films.

00:46:47:20 – 00:46:52:18
Nick
We have lots of time. Lots of time. I’ve got lots more I can read off to you if you’d like.

00:46:52:18 – 00:46:53:21
Jon
Keep. Keep going.

00:46:54:04 – 00:47:13:08
Nick
All right, let’s go. January 20, 25, which is apparently still physics. Okay, Nova, which I think is a TV special, which has been a long time coming. And I really want them to do it really well because it’s a whole universe that will take over from Guardians of the Galaxy. Good brand new cast, but could do it really, really, really, really well.

00:47:13:08 – 00:47:15:21
Nick
So I really hope they’ve got good writers on them.

00:47:16:09 – 00:47:19:11
Jon
And I really need to be at least one Dick.

00:47:19:11 – 00:47:28:11
Nick
Dick writer has to be the main thing and they have to kind of like, I want them to reference it, but never say his name throughout the whole thing. Yeah, like kind of like.

00:47:28:21 – 00:47:29:12
Jon
Like, Oh.

00:47:29:23 – 00:47:35:07
Nick
My name’s Richard, but I go by. Oh, excuse me, that kind of thing. I want I want that constantly.

00:47:36:11 – 00:47:38:24
Jon
That must have been intentional. When they met his character, Richard.

00:47:38:24 – 00:47:48:00
Nick
Writer Like in Iterations, February 20, 25, Fantastic Four.

00:47:48:14 – 00:47:49:22
Jon
Okay, next.

00:47:51:14 – 00:47:53:01
Nick
That’s it. So if.

00:47:53:01 – 00:47:53:11
Jon
You’re ready.

00:47:54:05 – 00:48:12:11
Nick
To TV shows in spring 2025, I’m not talking about Fantastic Four anymore, like Hunter, I think, you know, Midnight Sons and Moon Knights, Season two, Midnight Sons. I just realized I thought Midnight Angels was Midnight Sons. So I don’t know what Midnight Angels is.

00:48:13:07 – 00:48:20:00
Jon
They’re not Angels is what they call the the blue terminology. That’s the nickname they got. Oh, that’s why I was talking about them.

00:48:20:00 – 00:48:21:06
Nick
Ask me.

00:48:21:06 – 00:48:26:23
Jon
That. She says, What’s the name? What’s the nickname of the suit that you’re developing whenever she’s like Midnight Angel and Crazy or whatever.

00:48:27:01 – 00:48:39:15
Nick
And so I don’t think that’s going to happen. That’s probably going to be my dress. BISSINGER That’ll do it. My dad, he was a Black Panther big hero.

00:48:39:15 – 00:48:45:18
Jon
Yes. But then he actually was a Black Panther, so. Right. Racism card revolt.

00:48:45:22 – 00:48:54:08
Nick
Yeah. Come on, literary cop. So maybe they’ll swap that for that if if they’re already for that, because this is where we get in a bit.

00:48:55:15 – 00:48:59:11
Jon
Midnights. I don’t know a lot about Midnight Suns except that that’s a new game came out.

00:48:59:14 – 00:49:03:21
Nick
Yeah about Blade and Black Knight and some other ghost writer.

00:49:03:21 – 00:49:08:07
Jon
And Wolverine Doctor Strange Scarlet Witch and they can.

00:49:08:07 – 00:49:08:14
Nick
Put any.

00:49:08:17 – 00:49:09:13
Jon
Person in ghostwriter.

00:49:09:15 – 00:49:10:05
Nick
You know.

00:49:10:19 – 00:49:18:15
Jon
Anybody who’s after, like, the demons or whatever. And there’s a videogame that came out recently called Midnight Suns but it’s by the people who made XCOM.

00:49:18:15 – 00:49:25:09
Nick
Is that the one with I’ve seen like clips of Scarlet Witch going to recruit Magic?

00:49:26:05 – 00:49:41:04
Jon
Yes. Yes. But it’s but it’s but it’s more like a strategy and I might get it because it’s a strategy sort of board turn based thing where you have to sort of position yourselves and then, you know, a bit like XCOM is what I’m doing.

00:49:41:06 – 00:49:42:17
Nick
Let’s let’s do it on our Patreon.

00:49:44:13 – 00:49:46:05
Jon
Okay? If you if you.

00:49:46:05 – 00:49:47:04
Nick
Like to play like five.

00:49:47:04 – 00:49:53:03
Jon
Dollars per episode, you can watch me play video games.

00:49:53:03 – 00:49:58:10
Nick
People are doing cool. So yeah, Suns and Midnight season two. Okay.

00:49:59:08 – 00:50:04:09
Jon
Good. I’m glad. I mean, I know this is a league, but I’m glad that they have plans for season two.

00:50:04:09 – 00:50:34:06
Nick
Yeah, I don’t know what they’re going to do, but go for it. May 2025 Avengers four Dynasty. Okay, I don’t know. Big event. It’s a big ass event. And where are the projects beforehand that lead into it Where guys Carol where She-Hulk wears doctor Strange.

00:50:34:06 – 00:50:35:12
Jon
Documentation of the marvels.

00:50:35:17 – 00:50:50:22
Nick
Yeah, but that’s like two years before that. Like it’s it’s such a long all these characters, all these projects beforehand are all new or small projects to them and you know Fantastic Four to them be like Avengers team up like where is The Avengers in two years?

00:50:50:22 – 00:51:05:11
Jon
It’s I would I will tell you that the answer to your question is that they’re going to be they’re going to be smaller parts within shows. Yeah. So like we know that Owen Hart is going to be the main character in Iron Heart and we have a villain. Okay, fine. But there’s going to be more people. They’re not going to keep creating new people.

00:51:05:18 – 00:51:10:20
Jon
Maybe, I don’t know, maybe Yelena shows up with an Iron Heart or something that. Or maybe.

00:51:11:02 – 00:51:12:05
Nick
I mean, she’s in Thunderbolt.

00:51:12:05 – 00:51:14:16
Jon
Throws up in something else.

00:51:15:05 – 00:51:15:15
Nick
Okay.

00:51:16:05 – 00:51:24:05
Jon
We’ll see. And the thing is, like, they have to as they’re writing the scripts, they have to make sure that the actors themselves are going to be able to film it.

00:51:24:19 – 00:51:25:23
Nick
I don’t know how.

00:51:26:09 – 00:51:27:12
Jon
Now they’ve got it thinking.

00:51:27:17 – 00:51:32:04
Nick
About, Oh my God, that must be so difficult. But now we know they don’t really film it together anyway, so.

00:51:32:15 – 00:51:33:17
Jon
It’s most of them, the.

00:51:33:19 – 00:51:43:05
Nick
Oldest actor. So that will be interesting and we’ll see what happens after that. Is X-Men 97 Season two animated.

00:51:43:20 – 00:51:47:24
Jon
Right? Okay, so they must already be drawing it or planning it or something.

00:51:48:00 – 00:51:56:12
Nick
You know, it’s they already released concept art. So I mean, it’s probably easier to just do two seasons straight away and just blatantly said.

00:51:56:17 – 00:51:59:14
Jon
Once they got the first one out, they’re like, okay, we know how to do this. We’re just going to to.

00:52:00:09 – 00:52:12:08
Nick
Power it through. It’ll do at least two seasons if it falls off the rails is fine After that. Shang-chi to which I’ve seen some different titles for. But here it’s fiscal 22.

00:52:13:07 – 00:52:28:21
Jon
This is why I still think this a chance for me to be in the film because Awkwafina who I love like she Her claim to fame is a song called My Badge, which got big on you. So if Marvel’s okay with that, they can be okay with my only fans. Yeah.

00:52:29:22 – 00:52:46:01
Nick
I can subscribe. Fantastic. Powering Through. And after that we’ve got young Avengers, which is going to be a TV show which makes sense and got Spider-Man sophomore year animated.

00:52:46:04 – 00:52:47:17
Jon
Which sophomore year.

00:52:48:06 – 00:52:52:05
Nick
Is that after freshman year? Yes. Okay. Yeah.

00:52:52:06 – 00:52:54:12
Jon
Let’s make continuation this season two basically.

00:52:54:21 – 00:53:07:22
Nick
And this is where I think it comes off the rails because I don’t I don’t trust this title is real at all. Oh October 2025 Mephisto I I. What a.

00:53:09:05 – 00:53:10:23
Jon
What a terrible thing to put.

00:53:11:17 – 00:53:14:13
Nick
Away for you.

00:53:14:15 – 00:53:20:05
Jon
Who know what’s the best. Got a confirmed confirmed Mephisto.

00:53:20:06 – 00:53:23:14
Nick
If it is, that will be such a fun show. Really listing.

00:53:23:22 – 00:53:31:22
Jon
It. Could you imagine if you like if there was a cameo like Agatha, Agatha Harkness or whatever you said before, like I’m a reference.

00:53:31:23 – 00:53:32:11
Nick
There all along.

00:53:33:01 – 00:53:37:16
Jon
I will is the more tons. Oh, my God. Really? Okay, keep going.

00:53:38:13 – 00:53:41:02
Nick
After that. We’ve got Armor wars, which is confirmed.

00:53:41:02 – 00:53:41:21
Jon
So we have heard of.

00:53:41:21 – 00:53:45:23
Nick
Anything Nomad last year.

00:53:46:19 – 00:53:50:07
Jon
What’s Nomad? The TV series. You know.

00:53:51:06 – 00:54:04:23
Nick
Like Nomad is like another name that Captain America used when he wasn’t Captain America. Like when he got the shield, it was anti-government or something like that. I’m sorry if I’m wrong, but I don’t want to Google it. Something like that.

00:54:05:13 – 00:54:06:04
Jon
Fine. Yeah.

00:54:06:05 – 00:54:08:13
Nick
Abomination special.

00:54:09:18 – 00:54:10:10
Jon
Okay.

00:54:10:10 – 00:54:14:19
Nick
The Conqueror is for special, which I’m assuming.

00:54:14:19 – 00:54:15:00
Jon
Is in.

00:54:15:00 – 00:54:25:23
Nick
Kang. I’m guessing here a little TV special which could be interesting. You know, a back story Illuminati series.

00:54:27:15 – 00:54:30:16
Jon
Okay. They’ve got a lot of ground to cover before that comes out.

00:54:31:08 – 00:54:58:11
Nick
Yeah. Which I feel will be better placed anyway, So now we’re in. Yeah. See, this is where it’s bullshit, because, like, they were in 2026, but its dates are all over the place. Like it said, it’s so obvious it’s crap, but who cares? So we’re in 2026 now. I channels to be very wary, but I’ve also seen like people saying it’s like going to be celestials or something else.

00:54:58:16 – 00:54:59:13
Nick
Which could be.

00:55:00:02 – 00:55:02:16
Jon
Yeah, well, I mean, they’re going to change. They’re going to change at least one of these names.

00:55:02:16 – 00:55:21:03
Nick
Yeah, I’ve got most of them. And then we got Marvel. Ms.. Marvel season two. Mm hmm. World War Hulk series are coming out, and then in May 2026, Avengers Secret Wars. Okay, okay.

00:55:22:00 – 00:55:32:13
Jon
Speaking of secret wars, like, I think that secret invasion is going to be so game changing that it’s going to reassess everything that we’ve seen.

00:55:32:13 – 00:55:42:04
Nick
So I do as well. But I’m also trying not to think about that. Just Drew It’s it’s she’s not going to be Jessica Drew. She’s probably going to be Abigail Brand.

00:55:43:08 – 00:55:46:08
Jon
So no Avoca bride is half mutant.

00:55:47:01 – 00:55:50:01
Nick
And can you be a half moon? I don’t know that.

00:55:50:04 – 00:55:53:05
Jon
Being called half mutant. I swear to God she’s going to have you.

00:55:53:05 – 00:55:55:20
Nick
Just have fucked bits and beasts and Dick and.

00:55:55:20 – 00:55:57:14
Jon
Rose. Anybody who does that is just.

00:55:57:18 – 00:56:01:01
Nick
Gross Nightcrawler, absolutely based, No.

00:56:01:06 – 00:56:09:04
Jon
GROSS Abigail Brand was born and raised on the planet. Access to extraterrestrial father and a woman from Earth from whom she inherited the.

00:56:09:18 – 00:56:11:16
Nick
Oh, so she’s a mutant half alien.

00:56:11:19 – 00:56:14:07
Jon
She’s a mutant alien hybrid. What?

00:56:14:07 – 00:56:17:15
Nick
Please tell me about her powers because I’ve never seen her powers in the comic books.

00:56:17:17 – 00:56:25:01
Jon
Neither I. And I’m assuming that she’s got some to do with fire because her name is Brand and because that’s about it. Nobody to tell you. I’m literally online.

00:56:25:03 – 00:56:25:20
Nick
It says.

00:56:28:12 – 00:56:32:11
Jon
History attributes. Powers. Here we go. So, Pyro Kinesis.

00:56:32:15 – 00:56:34:07
Nick
Oh, well done.

00:56:34:14 – 00:56:47:19
Jon
Good job. So Powers is the ability to thank you advertisements for putting in the ability to coat at least your hands in flames that is potent enough to burn most metals via contact branding.

00:56:47:19 – 00:56:53:07
Nick
Jesus Christ, that’s a stupid power. Anyway. Phase seven.

00:56:54:13 – 00:56:55:07
Jon
Go on.

00:56:55:07 – 00:57:08:05
Nick
It’s obviously all crap. And I says here for the rest of this we are not mentioning what they what they speculated, only what they say is locked in or in development for phase seven or so. The order is still in the works or the dates may change if it’s true.

00:57:09:15 – 00:57:09:23
Jon
Okay.

00:57:10:14 – 00:57:15:21
Nick
So no dates. We got some of the bottom power back TV show.

00:57:17:00 – 00:57:17:16
Jon
Never heard of that.

00:57:18:08 – 00:57:27:09
Nick
It’s an 80 is only that if it carried on four kids get powers by some sort of weird thing. It’s weird. Very stylized.

00:57:27:21 – 00:57:28:16
Jon
Done with kids.

00:57:29:07 – 00:57:38:19
Nick
It could be really cute, but it will be children like. Children. That’s the whole point. Like a six year old secret warriors.

00:57:39:21 – 00:57:42:15
Jon
We can’t have secret wars and secret warriors and secret.

00:57:42:15 – 00:57:43:07
Nick
Invasion.

00:57:43:14 – 00:57:50:10
Jon
And armor wars and invasion wars and secret warriors.

00:57:50:10 – 00:57:58:03
Nick
Well, wait. Yeah. Name more. Which says it’s like game. Hmm. Who’s he? Name or.

00:57:58:23 – 00:57:59:16
Jon
I’m joking.

00:57:59:21 – 00:58:00:15
Nick
Oh, God.

00:58:01:01 – 00:58:02:17
Jon
It is. Is a TV show or a film.

00:58:03:12 – 00:58:07:10
Nick
Film, Apparently. That’ll be fun. And what to shut out of that?

00:58:07:17 – 00:58:13:05
Jon
Get some movies on you? Yeah, whatever. I want to see your skin rippling in the water.

00:58:13:05 – 00:58:16:00
Nick
I do indeed. She-Hulk Season two.

00:58:16:20 – 00:58:17:15
Jon
Did. Yeah.

00:58:17:22 – 00:58:23:01
Nick
November 2026. X-Men.

00:58:23:01 – 00:58:23:13
Jon
This also.

00:58:23:16 – 00:58:24:03
Nick
The film.

00:58:24:21 – 00:58:25:11
Jon
The Home.

00:58:25:18 – 00:58:32:09
Nick
Locked In. Okay, okay. But I don’t believe that because what the fuck is all this crap?

00:58:32:20 – 00:58:33:18
Jon
After this all said.

00:58:33:21 – 00:58:38:06
Nick
After this TV show, Agents of Atlas. What the hell is that?

00:58:38:18 – 00:59:09:22
Jon
What is okay, okay, first of all, what? Second of all, what is Atlas like? Abigail Brand? If she exists in the MCU ever, she’s like, commander of it. Sword, Sword. Yeah. So shield, Sword, Atlas, Atlas. I mean, why not Violet and Scarlet? So This Pokémon Sword and Shield, Pokémon Sword Shield.

00:59:11:13 – 00:59:13:19
Nick
For the next TV show Photon.

00:59:15:07 – 00:59:15:24
Jon
Monogram.

00:59:15:24 – 00:59:17:13
Nick
Which would be fucking amazing.

00:59:17:13 – 00:59:19:20
Jon
We’d love that. I love that. I’d watch that.

00:59:20:03 – 00:59:21:09
Nick
Black Panther three.

00:59:22:05 – 00:59:26:15
Jon
All right. Okay. What kind of forever and ever.

00:59:26:15 – 00:59:32:06
Nick
And ever and ever. Another Black Knight TV show thing.

00:59:32:06 – 00:59:32:15
Jon
Women.

00:59:33:16 – 00:59:34:08
Nick
I don’t know if we.

00:59:34:12 – 00:59:36:18
Jon
Just before or after snow.

00:59:36:18 – 00:59:47:16
Nick
Don’t don’t People don’t even get the fucking now, Doctor Strange three. Okay. Squadron Supreme.

00:59:48:20 – 00:59:49:20
Jon
What is that?

00:59:49:21 – 01:00:07:15
Nick
They are kind of like I think they’re Avenger the Justice League characters from on alternate reality kind of thing. All right. Kind of show up every now and then. Some weird powers, I think. Like.

01:00:08:10 – 01:00:10:14
Jon
Is this like, a newer thing? Is it like an older thing? I mean.

01:00:10:14 – 01:00:14:11
Nick
It’s been around since I read them in Avengers in like the nineties, so.

01:00:14:14 – 01:00:19:02
Jon
Oh, okay. So not new really. Nineties is history. No.

01:00:19:09 – 01:00:29:10
Nick
A long time ago. Shut up. Ten rings TV show. Okay. And then Doctor Doom.

01:00:30:09 – 01:00:35:22
Jon
Oh so Dr. King was going to appear in the Fantastic Four in some capacity.

01:00:35:22 – 01:00:39:10
Nick
But also he’s like the lead in secret wars. He has to be.

01:00:40:02 – 01:00:41:16
Jon
He’s the lead in secret wars.

01:00:41:16 – 01:00:46:10
Nick
Yeah. He’s the main antagonist in secret wars in the comics.

01:00:46:10 – 01:00:53:12
Jon
So it would just be awful to have a metal face. I just don’t I just can’t comprehend the metal face.

01:00:53:13 – 01:00:54:20
Nick
It just puts his mom on.

01:00:55:08 – 01:00:57:02
Jon
I thought it was like stuck to him. That was all point.

01:00:57:03 – 01:01:00:07
Nick
Burnt his face, but he can take it off. It’s gross. Oh, but he does.

01:01:00:07 – 01:01:06:15
Jon
Okay. So we can still like he don’t eat things. I guess if either it was like, burned to his face.

01:01:06:15 – 01:01:15:00
Nick
No, I don’t think so. I don’t think so. It might change depending on that. Right. So the long, convoluted clearly crap list.

01:01:15:07 – 01:01:15:20
Jon
Yeah.

01:01:16:11 – 01:01:27:03
Nick
So that’s everything we have to look forward to. And I’ll be 40 fucking 3054.

01:01:27:06 – 01:01:29:08
Jon
And he’ll be 43 eventually. And that’s going to happen.

01:01:29:15 – 01:01:35:07
Nick
I mean, yes I will. I may as well be watching Marvel Films. Yeah. What the hell else am I doing? So no difference does it make.

01:01:35:12 – 01:01:41:04
Jon
I’ll be good. Yeah, I’m. Thank you for that. I think that was really good. I Am happy and excited.

01:01:41:18 – 01:01:51:14
Nick
And this. Yeah, there’s a lot to look forward to. We have to wait for a lot that we are thankful for. Happy belated Thanksgiving.

01:01:51:18 – 01:01:53:09
Jon
Oh, thank you. Yeah, it was.

01:01:53:16 – 01:01:55:10
Nick
And thanks living.

01:01:55:10 – 01:01:58:09
Jon
Sorry I cut that out too.

01:01:58:14 – 01:02:05:22
Nick
That’s. But yeah. Good. So that’s it. And that’s our last episode.

01:02:06:03 – 01:02:06:13
Jon
Yeah.

01:02:06:20 – 01:02:10:02
Nick
I. 2022. What year is it?

01:02:10:02 – 01:02:12:07
Jon
Year we’re talking about all these years. What are we going to do now.

01:02:13:02 – 01:02:13:11
Nick
Now it’s.

01:02:13:17 – 01:02:32:00
Jon
Yeah, so we’re taking a break for a couple weeks. That’s been we’re still going to be monitoring our emails and stuff. So if you want to if you miss us, send us an email will reply. Let us know. What was your favorite part of 2022 in terms of it doesn’t have to be MCU. Like anything geeky, you’d let us know.

01:02:32:21 – 01:02:34:12
Nick
Your favorite geeky moment of the.

01:02:34:18 – 01:02:56:00
Jon
Day. What are you looking forward to in upcoming year or years? We want to hear about your geekiness. Give us an email, an Incomplete Geeks podcast at gmail.com, or you can contact us individually to reach me on Instagram. John Mark’s, Joe and Mark’s or Nick is available on Twitter at Nick Baker. Geek. You can also follow us on Twitter.

01:02:56:00 – 01:02:58:20
Jon
We’ve got some videos up there at Incomplete Geeks.

01:02:59:17 – 01:03:01:07
Nick
Please follow us on Twitter.

01:03:01:07 – 01:03:02:09
Jon
And follow us as well.

01:03:02:15 – 01:03:08:23
Nick
On how many followers we really need the followers on there. Well, it looks kind of sad of them. No, no, you created.

01:03:08:23 – 01:03:10:16
Jon
It like a few months ago. It’s not.

01:03:10:23 – 01:03:17:18
Nick
I know. I want it to be an instant viral, successful sensation that it’s taking too long.

01:03:17:18 – 01:03:29:18
Jon
You sound like me in my acting career. But yes, we enjoy the show. So if you enjoy listening to us, please give us a like share it with your friends. Let us let them. If you know any geeky friends that would like us.

01:03:29:18 – 01:03:30:18
Nick
Please share it.

01:03:33:00 – 01:03:33:19
Jon
Give us a rating. Yo.

01:03:34:09 – 01:03:52:23
Nick
Give us a rating. Give us a follow so that when we publish stuff, you’ll be alerted to it so you can save it and download it on your next commute. And we do really love doing this. We want to do it more. So the more you listen, the more people listen. Yeah, the better I will feel. Frankly, I’m fragile and all the time.

01:03:53:08 – 01:03:54:10
Jon
I’ve no idea how fragile.

01:03:54:10 – 01:03:58:02
Nick
Like I’ve got. It’s in your hands now.

01:03:58:02 – 01:04:07:17
Jon
Guys, so we’ll leave it with you. But for now, if you’re don’t see before that, happy Christmas and happy other holidays as well. All the holidays. All holidays. Sounds of like Christmas all over the rest.

01:04:07:17 – 01:04:10:20
Nick
Of them and all the other ones which are probably more.

01:04:10:20 – 01:04:11:01
Jon
Fun.

01:04:11:09 – 01:04:12:09
Nick
Than Christmas.

01:04:12:16 – 01:04:22:01
Jon
So we’ll see you in the new year. Stay gay, stay geeky. If you’re like us, you’re not a complete geek. That didn’t really work today.

01:04:23:11 – 01:04:24:06
Nick
I mean, you try.

01:04:24:10 – 01:04:28:17
Jon
Others, make the twist in the grammar. It didn’t work out right. Let me do that again.

01:04:29:02 – 01:04:34:15
Nick
If you like us, you’re not a complete geek. But hey, the New Year’s Ready? The New Year’s resolutions are ready.

01:04:34:16 – 01:04:35:03
Jon
You can.

01:04:35:03 – 01:04:35:19
Nick
On it. On it.

01:04:36:24 – 01:04:37:11
Jon
In the New.

01:04:37:11 – 01:04:41:01
Nick
Year. We start this time. So sorry. Okay, listen.

01:04:41:01 – 01:04:47:14
Jon
The way that’ll work you just met, you just say anything, and then once in a while, something will stick. Well, he didn’t do anything wrong this time. We always say that we could.

01:04:47:19 – 01:05:02:20
Nick
Well, we didn’t get anything wrong. But I read from a list that was probably very, very wrong. So like this person who leaked this list of stuff, I apologize. We’re not complete geeks. Oh, but.

01:05:02:20 – 01:05:06:07
Jon
We are for Pete’s sake. We are working on it for the love of.

01:05:06:15 – 01:05:09:04
Nick
Work, on the energy on it. We love it.

01:05:10:03 – 01:05:10:23
Jon
But thank you for listening.

01:05:10:23 – 01:05:17:21
Nick
We’ll work on it more next year. Thank guys. No, I won’t. Nope.